Podcast discussion with Brian K. Barber and Khalil E. Jahshan, looking at his decades of research in Gaza and his book "No Way But Forward," which chronicles the experiences of three Palestinian families living under the crushing weight of occupation and conflict. Their discussion covers resilience in Palestinian communities, the role of education and dignity in surviving under occupation, perspectives on October 7 in Gaza, dehumanization of Palestinians, and the broader historical context surrounding Israel's destruction of Gaza. This source is valuable for context on Israel's genocide in Gaza, Palestinian resilience, Palestinian education, and Israeli occupation.